Monday, 11 October 2010

Don't sign the BNP petition!

The crumb of comfort I draw from the fact that the BNP is still running stalls in Barnet is that they do it somewhere different each time, and they avoid being in the same place as the stalls the trades council runs.

To that extent we have them on the run. But one could say, equally, that they are giving us the runaround.

What I have been able to deduce is that the three stalls so far have been staffed mainly by BNP members from Enfield.

Here's my take on it all.

The BNP is collecting signatures on a petition that calls for immediate withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. If you want troops out of Afghanistan and you like the BNP, sign the petition - although you probably won't need to as you are probably in touch with the BNP already.

If you want troops out of Afghanistan and you are interested in finding out more about the BNP, sign the petition - because its primary use is as a recruiting tool and a means to identify potential postal voters for the mayoral and GLA elections. If you don't believe me, I can direct you to the radio interview where Nick Griffin explains this.

If you want troops out of Afghanistan and you don't like the BNP or you don't want your details stored on their database, please don't sign the petition. I think that a lot of people will fall into this category; some of them are signing the petition because, frankly, it's not obvious who the organisation is that is running these stalls.

The banner along the front reads “Support our troops, bring our boys home”. The BNP logo is small, although it is clearer on the sides of their table.

I've met people who thought these stalls are run by Hope For Heroes. I've also met people who, when they realised they were BNP stalls, regretted signing.

The thing that sickens me most about this current BNP campaign is the cynical and patronising attitude they are taking toward black people who sign their petition. This is from a report of a stall they ran recently:
“The one interesting aspect of the day’s outing was the large number of ethnics who agreed completely with the opposition to the war and willingly signed up." ...there was a “high level of awareness” amongst ethnics of the BNP’s new constitutional membership requirements.
That's how the BNP refers to non-white people: "ethnics". I can report now how the BNP regards "ethnics", since I had an extended verbal exchange with one of these BNP goons recently.

Gesturing to a black man standing nearby, who - alas - had just signed the petition, Mr BNP said: "He's got more brains than you and he's from Uganda!"

You see, they just can't help themselves. Even though they are now legally obliged to admit non-white members (you can be sure they wouldn't do it unless they were forced), the BNP is deeply racist. Their entire politics is based on racism.

Barnet trades council has produced a leaflet for the public explaining more about how the BNP intends to use their petition, and more about the BNP's real politics: the ones they won't tell you about on their stall. If you would like a copy or if you want to help us in our campaign to stop the BNP plying their trade on Barnet's streets, please email info@barnettuc.org.uk.

47 comments:

Rog T said...

Vicki,

"He's cleverer than you and he's from Uganda". One of the youth projects we're setting up is run by a teenager from Uganda. He's one of the brightest teenagers I've ever met. Maye the BNP are on to something and we need more Ugandan immigrants. Brain drain in reverse?

the dude said...

you dont have the bnp on the run, they are not intrested in you and what you do because its your democratic right to do it.

if people want to side with you
thats their democratic right and the bnp respect it.

you on the other hand show no respect for the democratic rights of any voter that wants to side with the bnp, because you stand in front of their campaign stalls like a mobile left wing indoctrinator telling people what to do.

people can see this a fantastic campaign thats why the bnp have everyones support.

the dude said...

rog
this ugandan lad thats so brilliant,

may be you should stand him for lib dem seat you failed to gain.

see what your voters will think of him a?

vickim57 said...

The Dude,

(1) You don't have everyone's support. Some people don't agree with troops out of Afghanistan.

(2) You wouldn't get half as many names on a BNP petition/contact sheet if you put some of your core policies on there, for example, paying non-white people to leave the UK.

(3) Since when was politics just a game where we all "set out our stall"? This isn't a village fete, and you aren't selling cakes. I am making arguments against what you're up to - that's democracy.

I'm not stopping people signing your petition. I have watched people queue up to sign your petition and change their mind when they realise who you are. And how did they realise who you are? Because I told them.

Can you honestly say that you believe everyone who signs your petition knows it's a BNP petition?

the dude said...

vikki
(1) i aggree with.
(2) its not about our assisted resettlement program which is the same as the labour partys so its irrelevent.
(3)your not making up arguments your just repeating the same old tired slurs which nobody believes anymore.
(4)you are doing what the left always does that is to disrupt a legal political party to keep the grimey status quo and deny our people the freedom to make their own choice without intimidation or pressure for fear of violence. mugabe's politic's

wake up viki your being used, you have nothing to fear from the bnp
they are a small party of working class people who you can vote in or out.

Anonymous said...

I think we need to consider each others opinions and show respect and courtesy otherwise we lose the democratic rights we have been handed down by our ansestors... The Greeks created democracy, let not us destroy it..

Rog T said...

The Dude,

Tell me what you think of BNP Council Candidate - Stephen Curry - smearing a World War II veteran on a BNP website this week?

the dude said...

rog t
give me the service number of your vetran and we will check him out.

until then we cannot comment about ypur claims.

Anonymous said...

Looks like the BNP were out in force this week i counted 15 activists, what can be done about this? they seem to be growing in numbers, i worried that they will grow and grow, did you spot them in Barnet Rog T, the dude, Vickim57?

Rog T said...

The Dude,

You know damn well he's a serviceman because there's a picture of him on the Australian War memorial website, as you know from the link I posted on my blog. You are just not man enough to admit your mistake and make an unreserved apology for such a slur.

The BNP are a complete disgrace for not taking disciplinary action against Curry for making such a vile outburst on a BNP bulletin board. It is also quite clear that they are trying to weasel out of apologising.

I didn't see any BNP out in Barnet, just a bloke collecting signatures to save Dover Harbour. You are right about the BNP activist growing, that bloke who was in Mill Hill a few weeks ago has certainly piled on the pounds recently. If I were him, I'd cut back on the pies.

Mr BNP said...

@ Vickim57
Read your own blog, it just shows how twisted your thoughts are, if i was to ever have the power to imprison you under the mental health act i would throw away the key, come on get real VIcky..

You are a sinner Vickim57 and if i were you i would attend church every day until you felt GOD had forgiven you. You are a liar Vickim57 and you know it. you are a twisted narrow minded sinner Vickim57. There is no need for lies Vickim57. Your take on things tend to stear away from the truth, you spent to much time browsing the Fiction section in the Library Vickim57 when you were a young girl.

Moving on to my question...

Did Mr BNP really say "He's got more brains than you and he's from Uganda!" as you quoted in your blog???

Vickim57 I suggest your reply be 100% truthful. You dont want to sin again do you Vickim57?

U can watch a thief Vickim57 but you can never watch a liar. God your Judge sees all Vickim57.

the dude said...

rog
the thing is you have to provide proof of everything you say now
cos lib/lab/con cant be trusted they all got caught fiddling the expsenses. you just say things and you cant back them where's the proof? and is that another one of your cuts telling people to cut back on the pies?

Mr Bnp said...

@ Roger Martin Tichborne


Maybe you should move to Uganda Roger im sure there are millions of bright Ugandan's in Uganda Mr Tichborne.

the dude said...

when the bnp return to mill hill
they might actually save your libary if you ask for help, that pathetic little group of citizen smith wannabees have no idea what they are doing.
all they think is they might get a council set so they can get some back-handers to build mosques!

Mr BNP said...

@Vickim57

You are about as bright as a 20 watt lightbulb in a power strike, the reason people signed our petition is because they could see who we were and they could hear what you were saying, you should have heard the remarks we heard from many people that day about you Vickim57. BNP petition not Lib Dem or Labour you spinless lot dont have the guts to get a petition going to bring our troops back the best you can do is a "save our library" we need more fiction!! You prey on people who are fraile and afraid to speak out the timid lemmings, the ones you can con time and time again well we are here and you have to fight us now we will not back down to u ever, even if you threaten us we will take the laws hand an get you arrested and discredit you and show the people what you really are, from what i have seen i dont think you people could seriously have an argument without raising your tone to such high levels where it frightens old people. One day you will wake up and have a BNP government.

The art of winning a fight is to use the opponents energy.

Mr BNP said...

@ the dude

I cant wait to go back to Mill Hill it was an excellant day out and the response we got was just fantastic. Maybe we can have 20 members there next time round...

Oh if only i could have seen vickim57 face if she had spotted us this weekend 15 activists.

Rog T said...

"The Dude",

I have posted details of my fathers war sercive records + a link to the Australian National State archives, detailing his service. Not that you really care about the truth, do you?

"Mr BNP",
Do you really think that describing frial British pensioners as "Frail Lemmings" is respectful. As to winning anything, I hardly think the BNP are in any position to advise anyone on that as they lost all of their council seats at the last election.

You may think that saving libraries is irrelevent. To the vast majority of people living in Barnet it is a major issue. If the BNP don't realise this, it just proves they are out of touch with the ordinary people in Barnet.

As to bringing the boys home. I would urge anyone who agrees with this to attend the "Stop the War Coalition" march on November 20th.

One other thing. If you guys are so brave, why don't you post under your real name?

the dude said...

rog
you really need to pick on some party your own size and stop trying to bully the bnp.

its a very small party thats full of working class scum as like to call us.

yes we did loose all our seats but thats not the end of the bnp. because we are ancestors of those people that stood upto the nazis and did the fighting. just remember this, we hate no one we love this country. so everytime we see an indigenous person that has been turned into a white, self hating liberal it saddends us,because we remember the struggles of our anscestors.

this is something we may aggree on
take a look at our latest campaign regarding the inhumane slaughter of animals for halal meat and that it is being sold to our people on the sly,

Mr BNP said...

@ Rog T.......

Thats far from the truth we did not lose all our council seats, we were conned out of them voting scam rings a truer tune...

And you love a good row eh...says it all really dont u agree..

Rog T said...

Mr BNP,

The losers refrain.
"We wuz robbed...."
No you weren't you lost. Learn to take it.

The Dude,

I'm all for proper food labelling in such circumstances. Just out of interest are you against kosher meat as well?

the dude said...

the bnp is not against any meat
but cruellty to animals is not part of british values ie foxhunting and hare coursing are now banned (but then they are british traditions!),

but the wider issue is serving halal meat to non moslems on the sly, can you imagine the uproar if we did the reverse?

we wont sit by and have these double standards its not equality.
so what you gonna do about it?

Rog T said...

More to the point, what are you going to do about BNP CANDIDATE STEPHEN CURRY, who insults WWII veteran bomber pilots on BNP websites and who is too gutless to apologise. Don't bother asking about British Traditions until you can give me an honest answer. Your attempts to change the subject are pathetic, cowardly and dishonest

Mr BNP said...

@ Rog T

Urmm think it was u that changed the subject initially Mr T....

let me remind you..

Tell me what you think of BNP Council Candidate - Stephen Curry - smearing a World War II veteran on a BNP website this week?

Now why dont you apologise as you are always looking for apologies from people, even at Mill Hill you did the self same thing, butt your big nose into peoples business and when you hear something you dont like you give it the intimidation stance, lets shout at people when there are children and old people walking past... grrrrr wonder why you didnt quite make it at Mill Hill during the local elections...

Life is not in doing but in Being...

the dude said...

hang on rog where's your proof you have not posted anything.

your the one who is dodging the issue because you dont care, your prepared to bend over and take it.

Anonymous said...

Roggering Roger caught in the act of wetting the biscuit....

S Curry said...

I WONT APOLOGISE TO A ***** FROM A SCUMBAG PARTY, your father would have disowned you and sided with us if he new the people below are your associates. If it is true what you say then I would only apologise to your father NOT YOU!

OUR ANSWER TO THIS FILTH IS THE DEATH PENALTY YOURS IS HMP HOLIDAY CAMP.

Lib-Dem Council Election Candidate (Tower Hamlets/London), Justin Sillman – Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.

Lib-Dem Councillor (Leicestershire), Frank Beck – Received a total of 5 life sentences in 1991, after being convicted on 17 counts of indecent assault, buggery, rape, and actual bodily harm, as the ringleader of an organised paedophile ring operating within children's care homes in the Leicestershire area. Though never proven, it was also alleged that Cllr Beck was involved in the murder of children, and the production of `snuff` movies.

Lib-Dem Councillor (Malvern Hills/Worcestershire), Michael Angell - Convicted in 2008 on 11 counts of possession of indecent images of children, which he stored on the laptop computer provided for him by the council. Fined £2,5000 plus costs and given a 6-month suspended prison sentence by the judge, who described the Lib-Dem nonce as “a dirty old man”

Lib-Dem election candidate (Tavistock/Devon), Archibald Wood - Convicted and jailed for 6 years in 2007, for his part in a child-sex ring. Wood, along with 2 co-defendants, subjected a 12-year old girl and a 13-year old boy to 6 hours of rape and sexual abuse, after `ordering` the youngsters from another paedophile on the internet.

Lib-Dem election candidate (Bolton/Lancashire), Tanwir Taj Din - Convicted of indecent assault and jailed for 9 months in 2003, after he was found guilty of a sex attack on a woman passenger in his taxi cab.

Lib-Dem Councillor (Bradford/Yorkshire), Bob Hargreaves - Convicted in 2007 on 4 counts of indecent assault, 3 counts of indecency, and 1 count of attempted rape against two 11-year old girls. The 62-year old Lib-Dem beast was sent to prison for 5 years.

Lib-Dem Councillor (Preston/Lancashire), Bill Chadwick – Charged in 2003 with making an indecent photograph of a child, as well as inciting another man to commit the kidnap, rape, torture, and murder of a schoolgirl. Eventually convicted on 18 counts of making indecent images of children, fined £1000 and placed on the sex offenders register for life. Chadwick’s gay lover - Alan Valentine, who has since committed suicide, was also a Lib-Dem councillor.

Rog T said...

So there you go. Stephen Curry - BNP Candidate for East Barnett is not man enough to apologise for smearing a WWII veteran Bomber pilot. Posting under different names he even lies about the fact that I've posted my fathers war record.

All You get from the BNP is lies, distortions and cowardice. The BNP pretend to care about veterans, but they are prepared to stand by and watch their candidates smear their memory.

Having exposed their shallow hypocracy, they now turn to all manner of insults and sly innuendos. If you didn't know what they are like before, you do now.

I wonder when Stephen Curry will post a list of all of the convictions of members of his own party. What is his parties answer to thugs who commit racist violence and murders?

Rog T said...

Oh and as for my father disowning me. he hated fascists. He wouldn't even visit Spain till Franco died. If he was still alive and he saw what you said about him, you'd probably get a Mills bomb through your window.

the dude said...

rog,
its not steve currys job to post a list of convicted members its yours even police officers have convictions but your a party of child molesting peado's.

your only intrested in attacking the bnp a small party because you think you might get away with it.

you dont say anything about ira murdering godfathers becoming mp's
do you,because you have no bottle for standing up to real terror. you are a fraud and thats why you didnt get elected.

S Curry said...

You showing how racist you really are by using your site to smear the Spanish, You obviously are some kind of communist as it seems you support the communist uprising in spain which had soviet backing churches were demolished and patriotic spanish people were killed.

Franco saved spain from becoming communist which helped stop evil people like you running their country. You have smeared your own father by saying he would bomb my house for having a different opinion, Violence is you talking not your Dad, I have Spanish relatives and find what you have said highly offensive and racist and will be considering passing what you have written over to the police.

the dude said...

rog,
see what happens when you pick on the bnp and think you can say what you like, you should remember that we to have familys and some of them are from other parts of europe.
so try not to stereotype to much i know members that also have mixed race grand children this is no phenomen in the party.

also remember this is not racist party its an inclusive party and any nationality can join so please get some new slurs.

Rog T said...

S Curry,

I do hope you call the Police to investiaget this because the story would then get National Exposure and everyone would see you and your party for what they really are.

Your comments about a brave WWII veteran would become front page news and no one would be in any doubt whatsoever as to what sort of person you are.

Nobody likes creeps who slander dead war heroes. Least of all the people who's votes you hope to attract. Whats your defence "Oh, it's OK to insult him, his son annoyed me"

Rog T said...

"The Dude",

What happens when you "pick on the BNP". They tell lies about your dead father's war record. Is that something you really want to boast about?

Mr BNP said...

@ Rog T

when i stated Lemmings in my post it was meant in this context.

The myth of lemming "mass suicide"

The people who tend to follow the Lib Dems/ Con's /Lab are being guided to mass suiside by their own people.

Your a traitor to the British people.


I read what S Curry posted with regards to the pedo's i now ask myself why the Lib Dem's are so dertermined to keep public libarys open, lot of young people use them. Quite a worrying thought and to think most teachers are supporters of the Lib Dem's grrrrr... I would have all the pedo's hung drawn and quatered then cut their heads off and place them on spikes for all to see what happens to people who mess around with young children, dirty scum should not be allowed out of prison may they rot in hell..

Rog T said...

"Mr BNP",

Do you think Stephen Curry is a traitor to the British people for besmerching a dead WWII veteran who volunteered to fight for the liberty of this country?

As to your analysis of why people want to keep Libaries open. Is this the official BNP position on the subject? One can only speculate on what sort of mind a person who could come up with such an idea could possibly have. People of all ages go to libraries to read and borrow books. It is a public amenity and people of all political persuasions support them, even BNP members (as far as I'm aware).

It seems that the BNP will stop at nothing to divert attention from Stephen Curry and his disgusting slur

Rog T said...

I would suggest that BNP members read this link :-

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/08/456454.html

Sadly it appears that all parties have people in them who really should be behind bars for child sex offences

the dude said...

you have done nothing but go on about someone you claim to be your father.

and you have ducked every issue thats been put before you all day.

typical limp dem.

Rog T said...

Total dishonesty. They just cannot stop lying and evading the truth.

Why won't Stephen Curry apologise for slurring a WWII veteran? Isn't he man enough

vickim57 said...

I've had flu and was busy at the weekend or I might have butted in on some of this. I'll try to get some strength up during the day.

It's astonishing, some of it (not your stuff, Rog).

We want to keep the libraries open so that we can molest children, is that what you're saying, BNP? Roger is right, if that's how the BNP mind deals with issues like the libraries campaign, God help them.

You guys appear not to have noticed or to care, but there's a Comprehensive Spending Review on Wednesday, the effects of which will devastate public services. Just to take one small example, Barnet's libraries budget will be cut by 25% over the next 3 years.

We can't just take that sort of thing lying down (please avoid reading some innuendo into that, BNP visitors).

You go your own sweet way, BNP. The rest of us have the world of real politics to deal with.

the dude said...

yes and we know what politics that is, sending young working class lads
to kill innocent women and children
you morons.

whilst you fiddle your expenses.

S Curry said...

I have already said I would apologise to your father if you are telling the truth not you! Are you totally thick and do not acknowledge this Roger Martin Tichborne?

As for your more recent threat about putting an article in the national press which on losing readership on a massive scale go ahead give us some free publicity, some more riddicule of the Guardian for a petty article before they hit the wall would be quite humorous. I have come to the conclusion that your a complete idiot that parrots the same thing you are using the Lib Dem pervert Party to make a name for yourself as far as I am concerned your name is dirt. Just because you live close to Mill Hill Broadway gives you no right to Harrass people doing a stall that is also a criminal offence.

Rog T said...

Stephen Curry,

You are a disgrace. It is quite simple. You post a comment below your nasty smear on your BNP bulletin board and here, unreservedly apologising to F/O L.F Tichborne for smearing his memory and that having reviewed his war record (which I can see you have) you accept you made a terrible error of judgement.

It is as simple as that really.

If you then want to continue the rest of the debate, we can. Until such time as you do, I will just post this message below every weasel attempt you make to wriggle off the hook. Comprende ?????

When you have done that

Rog T said...

and that goes for all of your other moody aliases as well.

Rog T said...

and that goes for all of your other moody aliases as well.

Anonymous said...

I thought this blog was about "Dont sign the petition"...

It seems to have steared well away from the initial blog.

Mr BNP said...

looks like u wont have a libary for much longer due to all these cut backs Rog T.....

Rog T said...

Stephen Curry/Mr BNP,

You are a disgrace. It is quite simple. You post a comment below your nasty smear on your BNP bulletin board and here, unreservedly apologising to F/O L.F Tichborne for smearing his memory and that having reviewed his war record (which I can see you have) you accept you made a terrible error of judgement.

It is as simple as that really.

If you then want to continue the rest of the debate, we can. Until such time as you do, I will just post this message below every weasel attempt you make to wriggle off the hook. Comprende ?????